In the Michigan case, obviously, you have I always forget whether it's the law school --- but I think the law school program was upheld and the university program was struck down because of the differences in the program. But efforts to ensure the full participation in all aspects of our society by people, without regard to their race, ethnicity, gender, religious beliefs, all those are efforts that I think are appropriate.
When I couldn't get a sense of his judicial philosophy, I attempted to get a sense of his temperament and values. And I asked him about the end-of-life decisions clearly, decisions that are gut-wrenching, difficult and extremely personal. Rather than talking to me as a son, a husband, a fatheraawhich I specifically requested he doaahe gave a very detached response.