I think it's going to be very difficult for the judge to find penalties that could indeed be construed as forward-looking.
All that accumulation of negative stuff really sunk into the minds of people. And these are the people who serve on juries.
If they lose the first big Medicaid case, the other side gets additional strength out of that kind of loss. And they're going to be able to demand more of the industry.
You're dealing with an exceedingly wealthy industry. If you hit them with a verdict of few million dollars, they could probably take that out of small change, ... The point of a punitive damage verdict is to punish the company for its wrongdoing. 3 billion (would) punish it.
The industry keeps saying that this is a West Coast phenomenon, ... I don't think we know it's just the West Coast. I think this industry has some rocky roads ahead.
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